Dapat meron tayong sexy girls....

BTW, Matawguro... you make us FMA lovers very happy. Salamat sa 'yo kaibigan!

I met couple of his coaches in 2005 in here in Hong Kong when one of my friend/student invited me for a get together for all asian martial artists - Dale Chung and Tony Chen are good and humble people. I've seen their students demoed praying mantis and tiger claw styles and the poise and precisions are at the best although I have not seen them spar that night. I was hoping I get a peek of their expertise.

Anyway, Mr. Chang's lineage are good although it narrows down to how he teaches... there are good practitioners but bad teachers and there are good teachers that are bad in performance. Observe and don't ask questions because you'll get the same answers all the time. You're a practitioner in FMA and you should know the basics of looking for a good teacher. Have your kid do all his 5 senses because in the end it's his future not yours. Just my 2 cents worth.

Good luck.

My brother Ak-47, do you know why he was in prison? Because if your basis is that FMA is all but a prison technique, you might need to reevaluate your impressions. You spoke as if you really knew what happened to Mang Anciong... in our times, we don't talk about his past - we see a person who made contributions and creation of Balintawak as part of Filipino - prisoners in PI isn't that organized. There maybe few people who group themselves as inmate gangs but they don't train FMA - for what you have to know, they are more concern about going out or escaping out because of maltreatments and you said Saavedra's style of FMA was from prison and Mang Anciong developed his knowledge in the prison? Big mistake. The next time you visit PI, investigate before posting something that you just have a piece of information that doesn't add up to us his followers.

I don't think there was an attack... the guy clapped his hands after... and I agree with jerry about the knife drill... I'm not an expert but I see the difference. Sorry AK-47 but I have to reevaluate my views watching the footage.

Count me in too... don't you guys invite all the FMAers nationwide for the Monthly Gathering? I think she's a good prospect not to mention the man teaching these guys. They're Atty Velez Group if I'm not mistaken.

We call that training concealment. Knife training in Filipino way is different from other cultures because we want it discreet and silent. You won't know when you're walking on the streets and suddenly your gut has been cut because stabbers love to keep or hide the knife. Other cultures like to have long and bigger sword because they want their enemy to think that they are powerful. I am with nosyac that practicality in knife training is the easiest and fastest way. No amount of forms to slice up a limb to make an opponent cut whereas you can just slash the hand or arms off with one strike...

Here are good vid clips of Cagayan De Oro Balintawak... and they play good.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=51UhNpsCOdA&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2jooSoUSh48&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2jooSoUSh48&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WFwjyWKMSUM&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rl9zi9RZFjE&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2aW1tg3fwis&mode=related&search=

The guy in gray shirt used to be a policeman stationed (I think) in Agura Market and he's very good in using the closest range fighting... gotta love the sweeps!

Bingo! There is no such thing as ordinary stick(s) in the minds of an FMAer!

They can do all they want as long as NEVER to change it's identity. Mang Anciong Bacon would rolled in his grave if his Balintawak system will be just called a stickfighting. If the purpose of the POC is to limit injuries, that's good and it will be hailed as a major step in Philippine History... if the rules sets good balance, then it shouldn't be changed. If someone tells me that my martial discipline is stickfighting not the Balintawak, the history will be just worthless. No heart and soul!

MIXED FMA?!

halo-halo ang dating. Anyway, as long as it's effective and we all see the similarities, it's good right?

Would there be an ordinary stick? I don't think that's the right word for it though. If you bring in an inch diameter by 28 inch long... that wouldn't be called ordinary... even canes or walking sticks are considered lethal. Toothpicks even are considered weapons... how much more for the stick.

Pang palo? That wouldn't be ordinary because it is going to be used for spanking assesssss. Any sticks that can be usefull are not ordinary.

I think you will never find FMA in Macau or Shenzen. Although, a friend of mine from Aussie is also from Macau and he's also FMAer. I think he will be here this year not so sure what the exact month. His name is Jonh Go. We'll get more info on some of my co-workers if they got something we don't know... but to my observation, none existent. Kaya solo natin ang area. There's a Kenpo in downton Kowloon that he said took eskrima classes in Hawaii but not really sure if it's true because it was just a second hand story.

[quote=JohnJ,Jan 24 2007, 04:01 AM]
[quote]IMO...a real knifer is either dead or in jail.

[/quote]Hey, there's Mr. Bayani... I think he's a real knife guro.

IMO, I go for stick. Unless the area you're in to a fight... ie, elevator, narrow alley or inside your house that you have valuable things and loved ones involved. But if the fight is on the area where swing sticks is full force, there is good enough smacking of bones. It only comes to dangerous and bloody fight if the knife expert get closer... remember I posted a link here where Donnie Yen and some guy (forgot his name) fighting in an alley with retractable baton and a knife? Stick is longer 28" (the least) compared to a 10 or 12 inches blade (including handle). the fight is choreographed but there is lesson to be learned form it... Donnie uses largo. Blunt object may not be as bloody as the knife sliced you off but internal bleeding to head causes problems. Remember I may not slice you off with a stick but I can break bones as any stickfighter does.

So, what is it then... a form of martial art or just a fighting art? Because I don't see any distinction of a curricular form but an instinctual fighting?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eskrima_systems

I was looking for something of a definition in english in this site and I stumbled on this link. Take a look at the list of Eskrima / Arnis / Kali systems and see if you can spot something in there.

forgive my ignornace but, I don't think it will be included as a system... do they?

...ADDING INFO:

Head Coach : J. Movilla Cert Coach: Pencak Silat ( PHILSILAT)
2ND dan : Shotokan ( SKO)
Plain BB : Sikaran ( TSAA)
1st Gup : Taekwondo ( PTA)
2nd Class Blue: Vovinam ( USAVVD)
Instructor : Advance First Aid

Asst Coach: A. Caylan Sec Gen Zamboanga Silat

Trainers : A. Abdurazad SEA Games medallist
M. Dimla World Champion, Gold Medallist SEA Games
M. Coronel National Champion

We are looking for practitioners and players who have the heart and committment and not just journeymen who wants to "taste" what silat is.

The coaches and Trainers are not receiving any honorarium but they are there to share the art to those who love it... Our way of contributing to a better society

God Bless and Peace...

... I also learned that the FMA and other MAs are going to have a Monthly Gathering. Isn't this something???

I knew you guys wouldn't pass on this word. As a matter of fact there is no such word. Any "lumad" early people (not way back early times) - settlers don't think they use that word. It could be just a matter of preferences and usage. I heard of the terms but he never heart it from any bisaya practitioners. Could it be just how to pronuonce the word Tuhon in western world or just taken from other asian countries. But not in BISAYAN DIALECT.

Nice sets of rules... does it come with artistic decision or just plain hitting the body parts?

It's perfectly understandable why Dan Inosanto introduced this form or type of fighting because of his views during the war. Almost all people during the time don't have guns... their weapons were just bolos, etc... etc... and if they don't have nothing to fight back and their on the ground fighting for their lives, biting was the next thing that comes to their mind...

Although, the pictures looked like their "having fun" -- sorry guys, I just have to get the joke out of my mind... My apologies to the practitioners and to Dan Inosanto.

C'mon Red, let the man post more of those "perspectives"... you scare him away. BTW, Lone wolf... welcome to the forum.

Hindi ko nga mapuntahan eh, sayang talaga!

I hope it's going to continue this regularly... I heard of this plan before. As for the instructor, I have to find out who?

With due respects to foreign FMAers, do you honestly believe there is such a thing called kinu mutai or kinomotay? I'm a bisaya and everytime I heard this word over and over... I laughed at it because the term(s) is/are used to gay or girls fighting in PI. There is no formal curriculum for this type of "fighting". I'll ask you a favor, please don't mention this word in Philippines because you will be bound as "clueless".

FORWARDING....

Free Training for dedicated practitioners is now going on in the following martial arts:

Pencak Silat ( by Philippine Pencak Silat Association)

Time : Monday 10:00AM- 12:00NN

Sunday 4:00PM- 6:00PM


Sikaran ( by Tropical Sikaran Arnis Federation)

Time: Sunday 12:00NN- 3:00PM


Venue: Gymnastics Gym, Cebu City Sports Complex

* contact # 09213371748

I like both... sometimes fight simulation foresee how to hold the blade.

I know this will biased but what the heck... which do you prefer?