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#1 RedBagani

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 09:29 PM

Has anyone read this article yet in Maxim magazine? It is an old, old story but I wonder why it was revived after all these years.

I'd like to borrow a copy of the magazine, and probably some back issues too. Throw in some FHM mags so I get a well-rounded research.  cool.gif
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 09:33 PM

I've heard Bruce Lee was also beaten by Judo Gene LeBell and others.  Hard to separate truth from fiction.....

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 11:14 PM

Yes I heard that Gene got him too. That was a reason Bruce Lee showed interest in grappling arts...

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 12:19 AM

The TRACMA (Trovador Ramos Consolidated Martial Arts) people keep saying they have video of his victory over Lee. With YouTube so easy to access, maybe now is the time to shut up skeptics like me.
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 01:50 AM

... If the things they said are really true and If they did have a video... what would that make us?

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 01:54 AM

QUOTE (mariusz @ Aug 16 2007, 07:14 AM)
Yes I heard that Gene got him too. That was a reason Bruce Lee showed interest in grappling arts...


the story of Gene Lebell taking on Bruce Lee and winning is an old one and has some credibility. More than one person has mentioned witnessing it and some of Lee's students from that period say he suddenly had an interest in grappling. If you look at the drawings in Lee's book, you'll notice that sketches are on freestyle wrestling holds and some aikido as well.

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 02:23 AM

Bruce studied Judo and American Wrestling under Gene Lebell. That's why Bruce mentions that his favorite Judo throw is Osoto-gari. On the wrestling side, he got the surfboard lock from Gene. You can see that lock illustrated in the Tao of JKD and in some of his videos. There's even a photo of Bruce in a Judo gi.
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 02:52 AM

QUOTE (Diego_Vega @ Aug 16 2007, 08:19 AM)
The TRACMA (Trovador Ramos Consolidated Martial Arts) people keep saying they have video of his victory over Lee. With YouTube so easy to access, maybe now is the time to shut up skeptics like me.



i gotta see this  smile.gif
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 03:10 AM

I heard Lee was nearly killed in Thailand by the brother of a guy he beat up.....

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 03:32 PM

It was written somewhere that Bruce himself told a story that he once said to a reporter "Hit me!".. and  Bruce nursed a cut upper lip iin less than a snap.
It's possible to beat anybody including The Great Bruce Lee but bragging about beating someone in a friendly bout doesn't make sense to me. If you beat up a Tondo kid, then in return he'll try to kill you and every member of your family minus women and children.
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 05:12 PM

naah... bruce was a student of Blancia.

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 08:40 PM

I thought I recognized Bruce next to all the other FMA grandmasters in Blancia's picture

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (nosyac @ Aug 17 2007, 01:12 AM)
naah... bruce was a student of Blancia.

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 06:44 AM

If that is true, then that makes every MMA fighter in the Philippines way better than Bruce Lee. I mean, come on, they have the most losses in URCC competition.

First time I heard of this story was back in '89 when I was a little kid. My cousin's gardener was teaching him some Martial Arts stuff. The guy happens to be a student of Trovador Ramos.

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE (nosyac @ Aug 17 2007, 02:12 AM)
naah... bruce was a student of Blancia.


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Posted 18 August 2007 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE (Sicilian @ Aug 18 2007, 02:44 PM)
If that is true, then that makes every MMA fighter in the Philippines way better than Bruce Lee. I mean, come on, they have the most losses in URCC competition.

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Give the TRACMA guys credit for stepping up though.
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Posted 19 August 2007 - 03:18 AM

QUOTE (nosyac @ Aug 16 2007, 01:50 AM)
... If the things they said are really true and If they did have a video... what would that make us?

Enlightened.  smile.gif

So....the video, please. Or even just a photo.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 03:00 PM

I really wanna see this, so if there is a video YOU TUBE IT biggrin.gif

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 03:06 PM

is it true that warner bros confiscated the video bec enter the dragon was supposed to be shown soon during that time and it would be bad publicity for it?

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (RedBagani @ Aug 18 2007, 08:18 PM)
QUOTE (nosyac @ Aug 16 2007, 01:50 AM)
... If the things they said are really true and If they did have a video... what would that make us?

Enlightened.  smile.gif

So....the video, please. Or even just a photo.


What would that make us?..... simple...Stupid.
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 11:20 PM

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 02:24 AM

lol

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 04:20 AM

How he beat him?.......  ancient secret art of bola-bola?? hahaha

.....hell, I beat Bruce Lee using Blancia death touch!
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 03:34 PM

QUOTE (Kilat Serrada @ Sep 8 2007, 04:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How he beat him?.......  ancient secret art of bola-bola?? hahaha

.....hell, I beat Bruce Lee using Blancia death touch!



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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:58 AM

QUOTE (nosyac @ Aug 16 2007, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
naah... bruce was a student of Blancia.


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 04:15 PM

Blancia..the man...the legend..smile.gif
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Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:03 AM

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