MANNY PACQUIAO VS OSCAR DELA HOYA Options

[Warrior In Scrub...]

It ain't final yet, but...kakayanin kaya ni Manny?

[Lulod]

It ain't final yet, but...kakayanin kaya ni Manny?

Laki masyado agwat sa tangkad.

[jerry]

Good money-wise, bad boxing-wise.....If Pacquiao gets creamed, they'll say he jumped up to high in weight. If he wins, they'll say De La Hoya was over the hill. If he wants to go the higher-weight route, I think Hatton would be a better bet.....

[nosyac]

Now, this is all about Money not Manny.

[Sitbatan]

mayweather beat dela hoya... i think Manny "the Mexicutioner" can do it.

[allan1]

FACING a much taller, a lot bigger, and the best fighter to date in his next ring assignment, Filipino boxing sensation Manny Pacquiao finally hit the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles Wednesday afternoon and started training for his much-awaited December 6 encounter with Oscar de la Hoya at the fabulous MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Philboxing.com reported that Pacquiao did some light workout, doing the mitts with famed American trainer Freddie Roach and hitting the speed bag. He also did some shadow boxing and was talking to everyone while he did his routine, a typical Pacquiao manner whenever he is inside the gym for practice.

The 29-year-old Pacquiao was initially scheduled to start training a day before, but this was cancelled because he had to meet first with promoter Bob Arum and that the boxer was not feeling well Tuesday.

Also supervising Pacquiao's training regimen aside from Roach are Buboy Fernandez, Nonoy Neri, Roger Fernandez, and Eric Brown.

Roach reportedly hired big sparring partners--two light middleweights and one welterweight--to prepare Manny Pacquiao for De La Hoya, who started his own training for the fight a month ago.

Hired as sparring partners were 154-pounder Yuri Foreman and Arron Robinson and 147-pounder Rashad Holloway of Raleigh, North Carolina. Roach said all of them have "powerful left hooks."

Pacquiao, the punching machine from General Santos City, will be the heavy underdog in the 12-round battle at 147 pounds against De La Hoya, called the "Golden Boy" and boxing's hottest commodity.

De La Hoya, an Olympic gold medalist, holds an awesome advantage in size and he will be entering the ring looking down on his opponent ready to throw his most dangerous weapon--the left hook--which victimized many tough opponents in the past, notable of whom were Fernando Vargas and Ike Quartey.

Meanwhile, Pacquiao has appealed to his fans, especially those contracted with cough and colds, not to pay him a visit during his training.

Pacquiao said he would like to be in great shape the moment he climbs the ring against De La Hoya and does not want to get sick along the way.

[nosyac]

This comes in age advantage? Manny's 29 and Oscar is 35. Manny's speed and Oscar's techniques. Manny's dexterity and Oscar's agility. hmmm... I would go for Manny. But this is all about MONEY. He who wins or losses doesn't really matter.

[PG Michael B]

While I agree that money may have been the motivating factor in bringing this clash of champs together, I can't help but to be excited. DeLahoya is going to supposedly have the advantages in size , but size doesn't wins fight (a contributing factor but not the over all answer). Having watched DeLahoya outpoint Steve Forbes and still look like he got hit by a truck doesn't bode well for him. Manny is fast..I'm talking waterbug fast...when u think he is there , he dissappears. The question is..will Mannys speed and power come with him at 145? I personally feel it will. I predict a Pacman KO....in the late rounds....to much speed...to many punches in bunches..and simply not being there to get hit..a tacic that will frustrate DeLahoya. Also, Pacman fights..Oscar is a promoter..when the bell rings the promotion ends.

[Warrior In Scrub...]

Okay, Pacquiao may be a lot faster, much younger, probably a stronger puncher, too, but...could he (especially his chin) take De La Hoya's power shots?

Fine, with Pacquiao's speed, De La Hoya could have trouble connecting cleaner shots, pero kapag tinamaan siya, kakayanin ba niya ang suntok ng isang (former) middleweight top dog?

On the other hand, De La Hoya has taken shots from much bigger and much stronger guys like Mosley, Hopkins, Mayweather, and even Mayorga.

Hindi man siya nanalo sa kanilang lahat, but the fact remains na sanay siya tumanggap ng mas malalakas na suntok.

So...?

[nosyac]

Hindi man siya nanalo sa kanilang lahat, but the fact remains na sanay siya tumanggap ng mas malalakas na suntok.

IMO, they can remember how they got hit by a heavy puncher but there is no such thing as "I can take your punch anytime...". The object of a fight is not to get hit. Plus, it matters from fighter to fighter. Just my thoughts.

[Mangtas]

Fighting taller guys is a hell of a job to do but most likely(IMHO), Manny can be targetting the lower
target areas where he has more access for a while...rib cage area. Most boxers slow down when the lower part of the torso
is being pounded every now and then. Doing such may lower the guard of DELaHoya making some clear shots to the face of DELAHOya a possibility. But another hard task for Manny is how to get inside into his opponent's perimeter defense considering those long and quick hands of DELAHOya...Win or Lose doesnt matter ... kay Manny parin ako.

[Lagnonector]

But still... Dela hoys is not in his "Prime" anymore.. many pacquiao has a chance

[Kali-bangon]

My problem with this is the fact that De La Hoya in my opinion happens to have one of the best jabs in the sport(at least during his prime) and if he somehow resurrects it and uses it in this fight, Manny's gonna have a hard time stepping in with his bombs.

[jerry]

De La Hoya always forgets about the jab wants he gets his fighting blood up. Seems a lot of people give Manny a very good chance in this fight. Just a shame he is P4P in the world, and getting the short end of the split. But it is still a very good payday for a naturally much lighter weight. Personally, I like Manny's chances myself, since he looked so much better at the higher weight last time out.....

[jerry]

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[jerry]

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[jerry]

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[Tauhid_87]

Gusto ko manalo si manny at bugbug sirado si oscar! then mayweather na, dyan kung manalo si manny bow ako sa kanya....pero kay mayweather, sorry manny mas magaling sya kay sa iyo......

[nosyac]

Tonite is the night! Go Manny!

[nosyac]

Congratulations to Manny!!!

[jerry]

The fight went pretty much as I hoped it would only better. De La Hoya was the betting favorite, but the consensus was, if Oscar couldn't take Manny out in the early rounds, it would become a battle of attrition. Manny not only survived the early rounds, but dominated, and Oscar's corner stopped it in the 8th. He was taking a beating from Round 1. Manny was too fast and mobile, as well as hitting hard effectively. The straight left connected almost every time he threw it, and Oscar didn't have an answer.....

[nosyac]

The fight went pretty much as I hoped it would only better. De La Hoya was the betting favorite, but the consensus was, if Oscar couldn't take Manny out in the early rounds, it would become a battle of attrition. Manny not only survived the early rounds, but dominated, and Oscar's corner stopped it in the 8th. He was taking a beating from Round 1. Manny was too fast and mobile, as well as hitting hard effectively. The straight left connected almost every time he threw it, and Oscar didn't have an answer.....

Did you see his footwork? The ring announcer says, "it was insane"! ROUND 5: Forget pull the trigger, De La Hoya doesn't even have a gun.

The scorecard:

DAN RAFAEL'S UNOFFICIAL SCORECARD
ROUND // 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 total
De La Hoya // 9 9 9 9 9 9 8 9
Pacquiao // 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10

[zchaos]

good fight! congrats to pacman

[juncarino]

I predict there will 2 more grudge matches.

Aba, tanungin mo mga promoters nila?

good fight! congrats to pacman

[dyak_stone]

That fight was just so one sided. Awesome showing of footwork from Paquiao. But I think more than anything, that was proof that De La Joya should retire already.

Then again, De La Hoya is still more of a winner, $ wise.

On a tangent, look at Manny doing some stick training.

[jerry]

We used to do stick-breaking demos while practicing Sam Chin, and use a rolling pin to harden the shins. This is a legitimate training device....

[Kali-bangon]

Aw shucks! And to think I was worried about DLH's left jab, after seeing that it was non existent after two rounds, I pretty much saw the writing on the wall for him. Poor Nacho, the man was almost in tears, the contrast shown between both corners in-between rounds was classic, Manny was following Roach's instructions to the letter, while Oscar repeatedly ignored Beristain til he gave up giving instructions in the last rounds out of frustration. And to top it all up, I found it ironic that out of all the celebrities who gave post fight interviews on TV, it was Mike Tyson who gave the most profound comment of the day telling Oscar to forget his ego and just retire, coz no one would think him a lesser man for doing that.


P.S. I've got a great idea for a rematch between Oscar and Manny, I figure since both have recorded music album(points for Oscar for winning a Latino Grammy) how bout a singing competition challenge on American Idol?

[nosyac]

ODLH is(was) a fast... but watching Manny throw punches on him makes DLH slower to watch. If he had follow what Freddie Roach's game plan when he fought Mayweather - he could have beaten Mayweather.

[zchaos]

That fight was just so one sided. Awesome showing of footwork from Paquiao. But I think more than anything, that was proof that De La Joya should retire already.

Then again, De La Hoya is still more of a winner, $ wise.

On a tangent, look at Manny doing some stick training.

i think manny's been watching the old film "kamagong".... there was scene where the master is hitting/tempering lito lapid's body with a stick.

[Warrior In Scrub...]

UFC President Dana White Not Impressed With Pacquiao-De La Hoya

UFC President Dana White didn’t seem very impressed by the recent Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar De La Hoya boxing match, and while the fight wasn’t what everyone expected it should still draw major pay-per-view numbers thanks to the Golden Boy. White recently spoke to Yahoo!Sports, here’s the quote:

“Did you see the production? And that was HBO. Maybe they should give us some of their Emmys. The pacing was awful. There was no energy in the crowd. They had to loop Pacquiao’s music when he came out because he had to walk so far…. I love boxing as a sport and I came from boxing, but this was a bad day for boxing. [Floyd] Mayweather’s probably running out of money and will probably return to face Pacquiao, and I’d pick Mayweather in that one, but nobody is going to draw like De La Hoya does.”

Boxing continues to have issues, and with a heavyweight division that isn’t attracting too many fans, and a potential retirement by De La Hoya it looks like things for MMA, and the UFC are looking up.